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just my comments...

1. Your RRV bucket corruption could be specific to a certain configuration. I know that I have not had any corruption issues in the past, but I had a small user base at that time. The best thing is to find a reproduceable scenario and report it all of the vendors. If that is not possible, and preventing corruption is *serious*, then have a third party consulting company to review your setup to see if they can offer an option in using not certified configurations. Consider not using any vendor that is not willing to play with other vendors. Maybe invite IBM/Lotus consulting in and see what vendors and hardware they recommend (that information should also be readily accessible online or in the release notes, too).

At one of my former places that ran SAN's, non standard backups, and multiple virus scanners caused the Notes and other applications servers issues. All of the vendors basically said stop using those non-compliant applications and hardware. That attitude may never change because of the nature of new software and hardware, and vendors not being able to test them all.

2. Locally encrypted mail files is by design. Users need to replicate often, and when their laptops gets stolen or the ID file gets lost, get a new replica from the server.

At one of my former workplaces, the admin kept all of the Notes ID in a single place with the same password because users tend to loose their ID file. They kept in the similar place next to the certifier. This was a solution based on "how they worked" or a process because the technology was doing its design. It was just too advance for the users who keeps loosing their ID files by forgetting the password they set, or getting computers that crash on them. They also issued a written employee policy in the code of conduct that prevent employees from creating personal encryption keys without sending a copy of the key to the compliance department.

The ID vault is a great answer to organizations that do not need the user distinction and can open up to a "third party" by technical legalese.

3. Again, that is by design when applications ("local files") have the "enforce consistent Acl". If you are having issues with certifiers, you may want to consider planning. AdminP has plenty of tools to rename and change users on the server, those updates should update the next time the user replicates to their local files. If everything is setup correctly, their replication tab should have all of their databases for a 1 click start for replication.

As far as your comment about IBM marketting, that has always been the question. If IBM owned Microsoft's marketing division, I believe there would be zero MS Exchange servers running except in Redmond. To get the official answer, you will need to contact your IBM rep.

In my opinion, I understand from about 10 years ago Microsoft is basically paying "Enterprise accounts" to use MS Exchange and is giving it out for free when you look at the bottom line. They are doing the similar strategy as with giving out IE for free. For instance, if you look at an "Enterprise Messaging" Microsoft Windows licensing, versus a non-Messaging Enterprise Licensing, you loose the about $3-5k on each Enterprise Windows server licensing when you add up the Microsoft products on each machine (Enterprise Server + Enterprise SQL). For a Windows shop that may have 100's Enterprise Windows Server, that is easily a no brainer to "upgrade" to Messaging to pay less overall whether you use MS Exchange or not. However, since you already upgraded, why do you want to pay more money to IBM/Lotus for their messaging license?

On the other hand, IBM makes 5-10x more money by selling Websphere server license over a Lotus Notes server, so they need to spend their resources where it is more effective.

I think IBM has done all that they can do to put Notes on Linux where there is a $0. need for an Enterprise Microsoft Server license. However, Microsoft is one of the greatest marketing company out there.

As a stock holder in both IBM and Microsoft, I can appreciate IBM's management from that perspective; I haven't earned a dollar off of the cumulation of my Microsoft stocks in the last 10 years. In recent news Microsoft is getting criticized by hedge fund holders that they have let IBM, Apple, and Google outperform them in the last 10 years. (Go figure).

(Sorry for the threadjack).

I think it is always good to diversity your experiences, and I think that the Notes Server has more complex built-in ways to manage the server. MS Exchange peple in the Notes debates forget that it is more than just a mail server that the tools works on applications besides mail.

I think the administration in MS Exchange is less complex, though. Most of it is "backup and restore" plus integrating third party products that everyone seems to want to create for. However, I find things that the Notes Server has built-in tools that you have to add an additional Microsoft license or a third party tool for a solution: encryption, replication / clustering, etc. As an MS Exchange administrator you no longer have to worry about custom Lotus Notes applications; however, there is a high chance that you will have to troubleshoot problems happening on other Windows Servers in the company.

-Kyle Huang


Feedback response number WEBB8H9KHU created by ~John Reniskiikle on 05/27/2011

feature of lotus notes????? (~Justin Brevelu... 27.May.11)
. . Some answers (~Cheryl Opfreet... 27.May.11)
. . just my comments... (~John Reniskiik... 27.May.11)
. . . . Very Well Written! (~Hank Ekkistero... 27.May.11)




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